Bug / request re: "Sort by page order"

When working in Study mode on Note files, within the Outline view, it seems that MarginNote creates a default parent (or indented note) of the Note title, and then the annotations become children that fall under that Note-title parent.

It also seems that subsequent user annotations are organized and displayed, by default, in “Sort by create date” (i.e., the order that they were made); not “Sort by page order” (i.e., where they actually exist in the order of a given file).

I’ve found this problematic for various reasons, and so I have to regularly select all annotated notes in the Outline view, and then select “Sort by page order.” But every time I do so, I have to first de-selection the Note-title parent and delete it so that it doesn’t disorder the annotated notes.

I understand that the Note-title parent is used to group all of the annotated notes that fall beneath it when a MarginNote notebook contains two or more documents. That’s reasonable. Still, I feel that @marginnote (or @Relight_Support-Team) should consider a way to fix the way that users can:

  • Select “Sort by page order” as a default option under preferences (and/or select Documents / Notes) and …

  • Provide a way that Note-title parents don’t reappear each time users create new annotations – especially after deleting Note-title parents the first time. Again, I recognize the organizational utility of such Note-title parents, but find them to be troublesome when trying to simply order my notes by “Sort by page order”

Thank you for considering this request.

Hello, JournoProf,

Really thanks for the information provided. As I usually just use mindmap to organize my thoughts, it does take me some time to understand your requests.

I agree with you and think it’s a good idea for users who choose Outline as a learning tool.

Sincerely,
Bryan

I’ve had the same exact problem, actually. I didn’t actually realize that MarginNote’s Study mode was creating these kinds of “Note-title parents” until @JournoProf point that out here… Thanks so much! That helps clarify quite a few things with why I’ve been seeing (and deleting) all of these indented notes with disclosure triangles all of my documents!

In fact, earlier this year I wrote @Sushi_Support-Team (or @Relight_Support-Team / @Lanco_Support-Team) about the problems I was having not being able to “Sort by page order” in MarginNote Notes.

I’m happy to say that @marginnote fixed this problem! (Well, it was still a bit glitchy, especially with larger documents.) Still, credit where credit is due…

Anyway, I think that @JournoProf nails the solution in his two suggested bullet points, and I hope that @marginnote can make those changes. If nothing else, “Sort by page order” should be the default setting for MarginNote Notes (in the Outline view). That’s a no brainer.

Thanks!

I am in full agreement with @jprint’s assessment here.